Curse

.defekt · Jul 13, 2006, 08:24 AM // 08:24

hehe Reikai, did the same thing yesterday, except the real runner was actually a nice guy.

I joined up after I saw the runner and the runners friend advertising that they were a "pro droks runner with 100% success rate", and all that kinda stuff.

He died just after the first Wurm cave, and everyone was like "erm, wtf? rezone?" After 30 seconds or so, somebody said "wait... that R/W is running us?" I continued running, and the W/Mo runner said really nice things, like "he's good", "i haven't seen a R/W do it this well for 5 months", "he knows what he's doing", etc. The other people in the group were really nice too, saying that they would pay me instead, but I couldn't take the guys money, and left the group at Rankor.

Hopefully the runner got to Droknars okay, and recieved his cash

Reikai · Jul 13, 2006, 12:55 PM // 12:55

blah -_- warm blooded hijackers -_-

MirageCloud · Jul 13, 2006, 02:29 PM // 14:29

running non forge runs as a ranger, do you still use charge!? i think escape would prove to be a lot better, but i might be wrong.

Wolydarg · Jul 13, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23

Reikai, I still have no idea how you have no soul when it comes to wammo's >_>

winkgood · Jul 13, 2006, 05:06 PM // 17:06

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Originally Posted by Wolydarg

Reikai, I still have no idea how you have no soul when it comes to wammo's >_>

IMHO, you have to play one to understand one. For the longest time I had a similar hatred and competitive feel towards warriors. As soon as I made my own and played it through, I started appreciating them. Now I play warrior in most of my guild's gvgs. I still love my ranger most of all though and continue to spoil her with expensive toys. However, I still make fun of noob wamos that leeroy jenkins into a fight. But its not a specific animosity towards wamos because I would make fun of a "B/P" ranger in a heartbeat who plays equally noobish.

Its a good idea to try out all the classes. Especially monking since they seem to be a misunderstood and hated class as well. (Probably due to the fact that nobody can get them in their groups)

lordhidetora · Jul 14, 2006, 01:31 AM // 01:31

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Originally Posted by Mistical miss

U mean, thunderhead keep-marhans grotto?, you would be surprised

Rangers, can run through the mursaat as well as R/Mo, holy veil versus the imps, smite hex for extra insurance, mending, heal area, dodge, zojuns, healing hands, storm chaser. (Healing hands works wonders vs the mursaats special attack) wilderness is low in this build because you don't need many seconds for storm chaser and you have no troll unguent.

I'm out of inspiration at the moment so sorry for this short post :P (I was planning on a really long one, this time using paragraph breaks)

Btw, Ranger DO have a hard time going past DD when there is more than one heretic + siege golems and other units, but they do manage when its only a small group, you'd be surprised how much a ranger can tank with the help of troll unguent. The + armor vs ele is just so good in the south shiverpeaks that it makes up for the abs rune warriors have.

Rangers take the hits, instead of stripping of the hexes when it comes to droks runs. (But avoid them clearly in the first place)

thank you so much for this.

Reikai · Jul 14, 2006, 04:18 AM // 04:18

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Originally Posted by Wolydarg

Reikai, I still have no idea how you have no soul when it comes to wammo's >_>

because as we all know, rangers can't run droks.

Here i'll tell you why.

After 1 full week of hijacking, I have not seen a single W/Mo capable of making the droks run.

Yet they spam Beacon's Perch aD1 constantly with "Pro runner" and all that stuff.

not only are they taking away potential customers, they say things like "Ranger's cant run droks hahahaha etc." which again, takes away customers.

99% of w/mo's do not deserve to run droks, and I will not stop until all of them are shamed so much they decide to do something else.

As I said to you, I've been running droks about 6 (or so... probably more... like when the SF patch came out.) months and I have only found at *Most* 5 W/Mo's worthy of running droks (in aD's anyway.). 5, out of hundreds.

I will name them here, because they deserve to be named:
Nengir Vampire
Girl of Ohness
Wandering Rose
Neeva Blade
Gale Valen

These 5 are the only 5 i've come accross that can actually hold their own, and are "equal" or "better" than I am.

MirageCloud · Jul 14, 2006, 09:33 AM // 09:33

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Originally Posted by Reikai

because as we all know, rangers can't run droks.

Here i'll tell you why.

After 1 full week of hijacking, I have not seen a single W/Mo capable of making the droks run.

Yet they spam Beacon's Perch aD1 constantly with "Pro runner" and all that stuff.

not only are they taking away potential customers, they say things like "Ranger's cant run droks hahahaha etc." which again, takes away customers.

99% of w/mo's do not deserve to run droks, and I will not stop until all of them are shamed so much they decide to do something else.

As I said to you, I've been running droks about 6 (or so... probably more... like when the SF patch came out.) months and I have only found at *Most* 5 W/Mo's worthy of running droks (in aD's anyway.). 5, out of hundreds.

I will name them here, because they deserve to be named:
Nengir Vampire
Girl of Ohness
Wandering Rose
Neeva Blade
Gale Valen

These 5 are the only 5 i've come accross that can actually hold their own, and are "equal" or "better" than I am.

Why? I run with both my warrior and ranger and i like both. 5 out of hundreds "worthy" of running droks? if you make it, you are worthy in my eyes. I did the run 20+ times, and never charged any money, I like to help players. But, I don't think i'm faster then you, so i'm not worthy either I guess.

Reikai · Jul 14, 2006, 02:27 PM // 14:27

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Originally Posted by MirageCloud

Why? I run with both my warrior and ranger and i like both. 5 out of hundreds "worthy" of running droks? if you make it, you are worthy in my eyes. I did the run 20+ times, and never charged any money, I like to help players. But, I don't think i'm faster then you, so i'm not worthy either I guess.

maybe then I havn't met you.

Reikai · Jul 14, 2006, 03:59 PM // 15:59

hmmm with the recent update...

I Predict, that Rangers will become the kings of the droks run, and it will turn the other way around, noob R/W's will start coming in -_- ugh.

.defekt · Jul 15, 2006, 12:32 AM // 00:32

Gah, that would suck :s

Hey Reikai, what do you do about people trash talking in Beacons about you? Because recently when I've been doing some hijaking, and afterwards the stupid Wammos go back to Beacons and spam that I'm a scammer, noob, and all those nice things.

Insert Name Hither · Jul 15, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

uuhh i have a lvl 18 R/W and i was lookin in to test runs to droks. i found a test runner and i wanted to tag along to see how well id do. we both did good at 1st. then there was the part where the wurm pops up and is like "ahh ima knock u down so the avicara kill you mrawr!". we both baely passed it and he had most of the aggro atm, so i put up a dodge. i made it passed but he ran into a barbed trap and got eated by the wurm and pinesoul... i made it to some grawls [WAAAAY past the troll cave] and died. i guess i got a bad direction or something.... can someone post up the whole build for me plz? and btw reikai guy, ive gotten many test/free runs from many wammos. theyre nice about it too. its the ones u pay 3k for thatll eat ur money and not give u the decent run....

no paragraph break ftw! ^^

Reikai · Jul 15, 2006, 05:38 AM // 05:38

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Originally Posted by .defekt

Gah, that would suck :s

Hey Reikai, what do you do about people trash talking in Beacons about you? Because recently when I've been doing some hijaking, and afterwards the stupid Wammos go back to Beacons and spam that I'm a scammer, noob, and all those nice things.

take pride.

go do something else, and come back later for further terrorism.

OR

You can just describe how the w/mo died. Laugh at him. Others will probably join you. Make sure to push the fact that you are a R/W and he was a w/mo, and he couldn't make a spawn that you could *not like it matters, but w/mos always happen to like to say badspawn this badspawn that... so yeah >_> just to push it futher >_>*. yeah -_-

.defekt · Jul 15, 2006, 07:17 AM // 07:17

Bahaha. Exactly what I did. Joined up with a W/Mo, he died at the first Wurm entrance. He then trash talked Rangers, saying that I couldn't make it and all that. Then he left, and I ran the guys to Droks. They were really understandable, and I convinced them that Warriors are inferior to Rangers

One guy said that he's going to make a Ranger because I inspired him. Always nice to hear

MirageCloud · Jul 18, 2006, 11:57 AM // 11:57

gave the droks run a try on my ranger

i died here...

this is the build i used:

MalVeauX · Jul 19, 2006, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Here's the correctly link the OP is trying to point to:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...96&q=droks+run

This video isn't even of a Ranger, it's a Warrior. Notice the animation while casting....

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Originally Posted by winkgood

Weee, another thread that I can add my video to

There is considerably less lag in this video although I did hit a few lag spikes.

Once again, the disclaimer: Please don't PM me asking for runs. I'd much rather see you learn it on your own. If you really dont' want to learn and just want to pay someone for a run, get Reikai to do it.

http://files.filefront.com/Q_ForgeRu.../fileinfo.html

Its 75 megs, so don't download it if you are on dialup.

Regarding the debate between ranger and warrior runners. The biggest difference I see with rangers is that ranger runners know they have less armor and as a result are a lot smarter than wamos. Mind over muscle. Why run into the middle of a mob when you can avoid it? Every time I go into FoW for a bit of chest running, this belief gets confirmed as I see wamos running right into agro range of skeleton armies. Then there's the typical "WTF!! REZ ME!!"

I have a problem with this video.

A) It's missing parts of the run.
B) It's segmented.

Why this matters: Dreadnought's Drift was completely left out of the video. All other sections of the video were splices. Each with the best possible run through (exceptions are mess ups that were recovered, ie: Trolls, and each with the best possible spawn--it seems.

Now, I believe and know Rangers can do the run great.
But the "evidence" people have provided in this thread so far isn't up to snuff in my opinion.

I'd like to see a non-segmented real run that is clear (ie: you can see the argo bubbles) and not just some spliced low quality video where you can't even see what's going on.

MalVeauX · Jul 19, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11

Excuse the double post /Delete.

(Thanks to forum having a "problem" and wanting me to "try refreshing.")

Reikai · Jul 20, 2006, 01:15 AM // 01:15

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Originally Posted by MalVeauX

Now, I believe and know Rangers can do the run great.
But the "evidence" people have provided in this thread so far isn't up to snuff in my opinion.

I'd like to see a non-segmented real run that is clear (ie: you can see the argo bubbles) and not just some spliced low quality video where you can't even see what's going on.

chill, its on the top of my agenda once I get back to Tokyo. I'll get that video up and rolling by the end of next month... which is... when I get back to Tokyo.

.defekt · Jul 20, 2006, 02:04 AM // 02:04

I'm also making a video of it, will probably have it done by the weekend. Hopefully

MalVeauX · Jul 20, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12

I'm eager to see the results then, of both.

I have particular interest in a few zones along the run, where the same mob always spawns, but how they're spread out isn't constant. There's always multiple siege golems and/or Heretics present. I'd like to see how a Ranger can go through them, in a single run, without needing a good spawn (or read: not a terrible spawn). One of those places is the Dreadnought's Drift. But there are others before there, that I have interset in seeing as well, though I'll just be patient for the video(s) to arrive.

Hopefully unspliced, unmodified and clear enough to at least make out red(s) and argo bubbles.

Cheers!